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Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:14 pm

You can definitely see the studio try to pander to the Chinesse market. One character immediately springs to mind and but the thing that I noticed were the weapons of the Red Guard, that were clearly heavily inspired by Chinese and East Asian martial arts weapons, like the Guandao.

I'm not going to defend the character you mention, TA and I very much disliked the big cannon scene too.


Now, 24 hours later, I can say that the only thing in the movie I still remember is Luke, the throne room scene, bitch general bitch Hux getting put into his bitch place and the hyperspace jump scene.
Everything else seems so irrelevant or uninteresting.

I don't know if Kylo and Rei can carry the Star Wars universe for me. They are just so meh.


EDIT: Holy fuck, I forgot. Where in fucks name are the Y-Wing bombers in this movie? They showed the X-wing an Ti-fighter, they showed the A-wing and Tie-Interceptor, even the Tie bomber, so where the hell are the Y-Wings that could have made that entire opening sequence so much less stupid?!
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Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:12 pm

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Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:14 pm
You can definitely see the studio try to pander to the Chinesse market. One character immediately springs to mind and but the thing that I noticed were the weapons of the Red Guard, that were clearly heavily inspired by Chinese and East Asian martial arts weapons, like the Guandao.

I'm not going to defend the character you mention, TA and I very much disliked the big cannon scene too.


Now, 24 hours later, I can say that the only thing in the movie I still remember is Luke, the throne room scene, bitch general bitch Hux getting put into his bitch place and the hyperspace jump scene.
Everything else seems so irrelevant or uninteresting.

I don't know if Kylo and Rei can carry the Star Wars universe for me. They are just so meh.


EDIT: Holy fuck, I forgot. Where in fucks name are the Y-Wing bombers in this movie? They showed the X-wing an Ti-fighter, they showed the A-wing and Tie-Interceptor, even the Tie bomber, so where the hell are the Y-Wings that could have made that entire opening sequence so much less stupid?!

Yep the film could've easily done five simple things to make it better
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1. Leia should've died. I get it they didn't want to edit Carrie Fischer scenes out of respect but now she's going to get an undignified death offscreen the next film. Plus that Force thing in space was so stupid and she doesn't even do anything. Instead it should've been her his the force to temporarily block the breach on the main deck to allow everyone to evacuate before letting go and dying. You can have both Ren and Luke feel it and that further drives their narratives.

2. I said earlier but that whole casino planet was stupid. Should've been they infiltrate the ship but are caught immediately by Phasma. They meet Del Torro who helps them escape, however there is tension in the group. No one trusts Del Torro, Rose has idealism of being a hero and Finn feels out of place. Del Torro at some point betrays them revealing some information about the Resistance they told him to the First Order. (side note how did he know about the resistances evacuation feint when he wasn't on the ship at all?). Then Del Torro hijacks the AT-ST and sacrifices himself so Rose and Finn can escape.

3. Luke should've showed up in person actually. Especially because they teased the x wing under water they should've showed him lift it and he flies over to fight Kylo. He beats him but then is worn out. Rey shows up in the Falcon to rescue him but he dies of exhaustion.

4. Rose sacrifices herself to stop the cannon. Would be more development for Finn as a character in that better, braver people around him keep dying and set him up to be the leader the resistance needs.

5. I have a hard time believing the rebellion can still go on for a whole galaxy with like twenty people. Climax should've been a handful of ally ships (possibly led by Lando which would've been nice) show up to help Rey evacuate them. Rey then goes back to save Luke as I said in point 4.


Most frustrating thing about this film all the pieces were in place and the actors and dialogue wasn't bad per se, but just the narrative execution was god awful. Prequels at least had pathos and more thematic emotional arcs
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:40 pm

Upon reflection, the movie seems to be getting worse in my memory. With that said, Mark Hamil stole the show, gave it back and stole it again.

I think I'm going to adopt his following sentence as a chatphrase or something:
Amazing. Every word that you just said - is wrong.
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Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:54 am

Well, finally a Star Wars movie that has made me wash my hands off the entire franchise. For me the movie was a giant troll to me as a huge fan of the franchise. A middle finger to somebody who spent a long time in this world. Clearly all the movies, comics, TV shows, books meant nothing and it told me that as a fan I should just go fuck myself. Nothing in the huge history of this world mattered, none of the trials and tribulations were worth anything and the way it ended, well I don't think there is anywhere to go.

I think this might be a movie that young kids who enjoyed TFA might like and maybe for a new fandom to build. The message is that we as an old generation of fans should now leave the franchise and let a new generation of kids take it forward.

This is not to say that there weren't cool moments and scenes, but over all I came out the the theatre disappointed and after an evening of ranting and raving decided that I don't want anything to do with this universe anymore. Done with any new TV shows, comics, books also and definitely not interested in the next episode.

Time to fade away into the Force like the Jedi Masters before me. Not with rage and anger but at peace with the fact that the world has moved on and it's time for a new generation of fans to rise and take the universe where it has to go. I'll miss you Star Wars and will always remember the great moments, characters and lessons I got.
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Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:45 am

Phantom, where've you been? Haven't seen you post in ages.
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:45 am

Yeah mate, it's been a while. I've been around .. just didn't have much to say. Except when JL came out and now this travesty of a Star Wars movie. Thought I'd take some time to talk about it with people who have similar interests and inclinations. Hope you've been doing well as well.
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:36 am

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Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:54 am
Well, finally a Star Wars movie that has made me wash my hands off the entire franchise. For me the movie was a giant troll to me as a huge fan of the franchise. A middle finger to somebody who spent a long time in this world. Clearly all the movies, comics, TV shows, books meant nothing and it told me that as a fan I should just go fuck myself. Nothing in the huge history of this world mattered, none of the trials and tribulations were worth anything and the way it ended, well I don't think there is anywhere to go.

I think this might be a movie that young kids who enjoyed TFA might like and maybe for a new fandom to build. The message is that we as an old generation of fans should now leave the franchise and let a new generation of kids take it forward.

This is not to say that there weren't cool moments and scenes, but over all I came out the the theatre disappointed and after an evening of ranting and raving decided that I don't want anything to do with this universe anymore. Done with any new TV shows, comics, books also and definitely not interested in the next episode.

Time to fade away into the Force like the Jedi Masters before me. Not with rage and anger but at peace with the fact that the world has moved on and it's time for a new generation of fans to rise and take the universe where it has to go. I'll miss you Star Wars and will always remember the great moments, characters and lessons I got.
That's kind of true and sad. Honestly would've been better off if they wanted to do something new set it a few generations after the original trilogy that the Skywalkers and Solos are legendary or mythical figures and one protagonist discovers he or she's a descendant of Skywalker. Sort of like Cade Skywalker in the EU
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:52 am

How do you guys feel about starting a spoiler filled thread about Last Jedi specifically?
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:40 pm

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How do you guys feel about starting a spoiler filled thread about Last Jedi specifically?
On it
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:46 am

So, now that the dust is settling on the absolute fucking failure and disaster that is The Fail of Palpatine (Because Rey isn't and never will be a Skywalker), I feel like it's time to necro this thread, if for nothing else but to bitch and the travesty that Disney Star Wars ultimatelly turned into and were it not for the Mandalorian would have sunk the IP into nothingness.

I won't review the film, since I haven't seen it and won't until there is a decent rip on pirate sites, because Disney does not deserve my money for this utter shit. I'd actually be willing to give them money for the Mandalorian, but Disney+ is not available here.

Suffice to say, that judging by all the spoiler reviews, the movie is an utter lore breaking, character wasting/ruining mess. A monumental failure on every level and I cant believe honest reviewers are actually giving this piece of shit 5/10s, under the excuse of "it looks pretty", "there's some cool action here and there", "I see what they were trying to do", "if you turn your brain off and don't think about it, it ain't so bad" and shit like that.
The movie is basically a really well polished turd! These exact same reviewers used to crucify films like this and not accept those excuses.

The only thing I'm still puzzling is why they are being so charitable to this movie and I can think of 4 things:
1 - they are afraid of Papa Disney's belt
2 - They don't want to believe that Star Wars has sunk so low
3 - They support some of the political agenda being pushed that they are desperately trying to salvage what can be salvaged
4 - They just don't care anymore about Star Wars after TLJ and can't muster up enough emotion to give a damn.

My brother-in-law saw the movie and he had only one word for it: "Disaster", and he is not one to throw words like that around often.
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Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:11 am

With that out of the way, I'd like to rank the Star Wars movies from best to worst in my personal opinion and encourage all of you to do the same.

Here we go:
1 - Empire strikes back
The best movie in the entire collection, bar none. Yeah, it has some horrendous pacing issues in the middle part, but the rest of the movie is pure gold.

2 - A new Hope
The one that started it all and start it well it did. It's easy to see that things weren't really planned out quite as well as we are told on a regular basis (Obi-Wan calling Vader "Darth", etc.), but in the end it is a great movie to start with and established one of the greatest IPs ever

3 - Revenge of the Sith
Surprised? The best movie of the prequel trilogy is an impressive beast that concludes the tail of the fall of the Republic, Jedi and Anakin in a pretty good way and has arguably the most technically impressive lightsaber duel of the entire franchise. The only drawback being that you really need to watch the Clone Wars series to get the full context and punch of the movie.

4 - Return of the Jedi
Not going to lie, this movie is the weakest of the original trilogy and by a country mile. Parts of it are played for laughs and jokes and the Ewoks are... Well, they are what they are. Still, despite that, as a conclusion to the original trilogy, it works great and the Luke, Vader and Emperor scenes are magnificent.

5 - The Phantom Menace
What? how dare I put Jar Jar so high on the list? Well, I do. There is a bit of guilty pleasure to this as this was my first childhood Star Wars movie, as opposed to the original trilogy being "my parents' Star Wars". Yeah, it has it's problems here and there, but Jar Jar is not as bad in this movie as he would later become in the Clone Wars series. People are blosing things out of proportion with this. Yes, the mitoclorians are dumb and I certainly choose to ignore it or retcon it to them ebing a creature that feeds on force sensitive's rather than give them access to the Force, but other than that, the movie works just fine for me and I like it a lot.
the Darth Maul, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan duel is my 3rd favourit in the franchise and it is in this movie that I really started liking Obi-Wan.

6 - Attack of the clones
This one I don't have much to say about. It is my least favourite of the prequels. It is just fine and well made, but not spectacular in any way. IF it wasn't for Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan, I'm not sure I'd care much about it at all. The series blows it out of the water like it isn't even funny.

7 - The Farce... pardon me. The Force Awakens
I can already see the incredulous expressions on your faces. No, the movie isn't that bad and it is competently shot. When I first watched it, I did kind of like it, but later, thinking about it more, it kept falling apart more and more and more in my eyes. So many stupid scenes and decisions, JJ's dumb mystery box bullshit and so on. Despite it all, not an egregious failure, unlike what was about to come.

8 - The Fail of Palpatine or as it is supposedly know: The rise of "Skywalker"
This movie is an unmitigated disasster on every level and it is a gigantic fuck you to the lore, the fans and basically everyone. It's one saving grace is that it couldn't have been good to begin with and by the time it came out, I was so apathetic about Star Wars that it hurt.

9 - The Last Jedi
Technically, this movie isn't as big of a failure as is the Fail of Palpatine, but this is the one that ruined it all and set the stage for it's miserable failure.
Ruin Johnson outdid himself on this one. Not only did he continue the ruination of the old cast and especially Luke's character, he also ruined much of the new cast. All of Rey's story setups from the Farce Awakens were thrown in the trash unceremoniously, Finn who was potentially the most interesting of the new cast was ruined multiple times during this movie, Rose Tycho was a pointless waste of Space, Poe got pegged hard by Leia dn Holdo, he ruined many of the fundamental mechanics of the universe and introduced the stupid fucking Diad bullshit between Kylo and Rey.
This movie, while technically good is an embarrassment storywise and an errect middle dick to the lore and the fans.
You sure subverted my expectations, Ruin, you dick. I expected Star Wars to be good and boy did you subvert that.
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Re: Star Wars

Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:55 pm

Reylo shippers are fucking nuts and out of their gourdes, but I find the people who ship Finn and Poe to be much more annoying.

FFS, can two men not be friends anymore in modern media? Why do they need to be gay for each other? Where the fuck are all these supposed scenes of them showing this supposed attraction to each other?

All I saw thus far was that one scene where they hug after reuniting in The Farce Awakens and in TLJ they barely had any scenes together.

Newsflash to these sexually repressed idiot: men who are friends hug each other, without it meaning they want to suck each other off.
It's like in the minds of these people friendship doesn't exist.


I swear, Axel Braun needs to make a parody for these people to get their rocks off so they can maybe start thinking partially normally.
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Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:55 pm
Reylo shippers are fucking nuts and out of their gourdes, but I find the people who ship Finn and Poe to be much more annoying.

FFS, can two men not be friends anymore in modern media? Why do they need to be gay for each other? Where the fuck are all these supposed scenes of them showing this supposed attraction to each other?

All I saw thus far was that one scene where they hug after reuniting in The Farce Awakens and in TLJ they barely had any scenes together.

Newsflash to these sexually repressed idiot: men who are friends hug each other, without it meaning they want to suck each other off.
It's like in the minds of these people friendship doesn't exist.


I swear, Axel Braun needs to make a parody for these people to get their rocks off so they can maybe start thinking partially normally.
The Disney Trilogy in a nutshell:

Disney makes a movie that while initially fans like for the nostalgia and rather conservative approach, complain about it being a remake and essentially not new or exciting at all. Disney then overcorrects and hires a pretentious film school favorite director to make a movie that subverts fans expectations too much. That subversion pisses off the fan base and Disney and the director double down and insult the fan base even more. Disney then tries to course correct again but over corrects and creates a film that is way too fan servicey that it insults the fans. Should’ve adapted parts of the expanded universe.

Here’s how I would’ve made the new trilogy:

Main characters are Han and Leia’s twins being trained to be Jedi, but one eventually falls to the dark side when the galaxy is invaded by an extra galactic threat in an attempt to unite and save the galaxy. Meanwhile the galaxy has been broken up into five factions (one including the New Republic and the other the remains of the Empire) that are in a Cold War the last thirty years that went hot recently at the start of the trilogy. However the extragalactic invaders force most the factions to unite but then when the bad Solo kid shows up with a Sith army, the galaxy and the invaders fully unite to defeat the threat and the other sibling fights the Sith sibling and decides to create a new force order that isn’t Sith or Jedi.



Think about it, first film is about the Cold War between the new republic and empire remnant going hot. Empire remnant is led by Admiral Thrawn who suddenly seems embolden by allying with a mysterious female Sith user who claims to be the Emperor’s daughter who has an elite small Sith army with her. Halfway through the first film is that the Empire Remnant declares war by starting a space battle, ambushing a New Republic diplomatic mission that has Leia on it. Her twins fly as escort pilots to protect it, but the Empire and Sith ships prove to be too many. CPT Solo orders an evacuation as his kids buy time, but unfortunately he is killed from a blast by Thrawn’s flagship before his ship can jump into light speed to follow the rest of the crew, devastating his kids especially his daughter. War is declared although Grand Master Luke remains skeptical and urges caution, butting heads with his sister and niece protege. The climax is the twins manage to infiltrate Thrawns ship and battle lady Sith to a draw before she mysteriously retreats. Suddenly the Sith fleet abandons the Empire Remnant, turning the tide of the Battle. Twins confront Thrawn on the deck and disarm him easily. The daughter tries to kill him but the son instead shoots Thrawn, to spare his sister into giving into the dark side. Rest of Empire retreats and Thrawn dying tells them all they are fools for they haven’t realized what they had done, he was trying to save the galaxy because “they are coming.”

Film ends with Han’s funeral and Luke trying to decipher Thrawn’s warning, when the female twin declares she’s renouncing the Jedi to go into exile for letting into her hate. The other twin outwardly seems fine, but it is clear he has guilt and PTSD for killing Thrawn in cold blood. Leia is shown alone using the force.

Second film an extraterrestrial force has invaded the galaxy. Two of the five factions have been overtaken. The third faction is about to be overrun and the NR decides to intervene to combat the threat and protect the third faction. Empire Remnant refuses to unite with anyone but still finds itself slowly being pushed back within its borders. Extraterrestrials are proven to be difficult because they seem to be a savage species that are immune to the force and seem to power organic ships instead of technological, making them hard to detect. Male twin becomes the leading general for the NR and tries to combat the threat but loses a huge battle and loses a lot of his men while seemingly killed. He is also dealing with ptsd and guilt still about Thrawns death. Everyone assumes he’s dead after the battle, even his sister who is revealed to be exiled on Mandalore with Boba Fetts clan who are training her to fight like a Mandalorian. Leia implores Luke to stop meditating and fighting but Luke refuses because he still senses the real enemy is out there and it is not the invaders. The male twin is revealed to be alive but a prisoner to the galactic invaders who seem to have been able to cut him off from the force. He however is able to break out and regain a connection to the Force by tapping into the dark side and unleashing his anger over his father’s death, his sister leaving him, the loss of his men, and killing Thrawn in cold blood. Leia and his sister sense his brief outrage in the force. While he’s trying to escape, suddenly some Sith Troops arrive and accost him, rescuing him from the galactic invaders. Leia reveals to Luke that the NR has developed a super weapon of their own from former engineers from the Death Star that they can use to completely annihilate the galactic invaders. Luke is horrified and warns Leia not to use it, especially because a lot of the invaders seem to be traveling with unarmed people of their species. Leia is steadfast though.

Male twin is taken to Lady Sith on a forgotten Sith planet who reveals she has been waiting for him. She also tells him she’s not Palptine’s daughter, but rather was an apprentice to his grandfather before he was forced to kill her for violating the rule of two by Palpatine. Vader took her to The Sith planet years ago and executed her. However her anger at the betrayal on the grave of many dead Sith led her to survive. She spent the last forty years gathering a Sith army in secret, using forgotten technology and power from both the ancient Sith homeworld as well as remnants of the forgotten Sith Empire. She has a small but powerful Sith army that can take over a weaken galaxy and fully reunite it now, all she needed was a leader and its been revealed she’s waited for the male twin to take control of the Sith army and fully unite the galaxy for good. Justifying his actions as it is necessary to combat the extraterrestrial threat and that unlike Palpatine who did it for for power or Vader who did it for selfish reasons and his pride, he will be doing it for the right thing and becomes the new Darth. His conversion to the dark side is felt by his sister and Luke feels it too. Male twin still remains uneasy about accepting the dark side but justified he has to do it even at the expense of his own soul.

Leia has the fleet ready to activate the weapon while in a standoff with the main fleet of the invader threat. Luke shows up and pleas with Leia to not use this dangerous power, even piloting his ship in front of the weapons path. Leia relents and stands down and Luke asks her to search her feelings. Leia uses her force abilities and is able to telepathically reach out to the extraterrestrial leader and discover they aren’t immune to the force but sensitive to it too; they just use it in different ways the galaxy and the Jedi never learned. There seems to be no dominant dark or light force within them and it enables them to power their organic ships while making them resistant to the light side of the force. The invaders stand down as well now that Leia is able to make contact with them and reveal they were invading the galaxy not to destroy it but stop a prophecized threat that would doom them all. Suddenly male twin arrives on the battle field with his new Sith army and double agents of the Sith army who are revealed to be engineers for the powerful New Republic weapon activate it and start using it on NR and invaders ships alike, massacring everything and killing most of the new Jedi Order.

Luke fights his nephew in a lightsaber duel in the chaos and seems to be more powerful and eventually gets the better of him, but he refuses to strike his nephew down. Lady Sith appears and kills Luke by impaling him from behind. His death is felt throughout all force users in the galaxy. Male twin is stunned and conflicted but Lady Sith seems to bring him back to earth by reminding him he needs to save the galaxy. Male twin recovers and continues to lead the army massacring what’s left. Leia is able to retreat with what’s barely left of the New Republic fleet. Female twin is fully inducted into the clan at the end of the film while still looking into the sky with worry.


Third film is set five years later. The Sith Empire has conquered most of the galaxy except the Empire Remnant which still manages to resist although it is slowly contracting. Empire Remnant refuses to join the Sith Empire mainly due to distrust of over reliance on the Force as well as them seeing themselves of the true rightful heirs of the Galactic Empire. Sith Empire is more occupied with snuffing our the exiled New Republic government led by Leia and the invader aliens due to the mastery of the force before dealing with the Empire Remnant. Male twin is the leader of the Sith Empire. Female twin is part of a Mandalorian bounty hunter gang that does small jobs to make a living during the chaos of the war. Boba Fett used to be a part of that gang before he became the de facto ruler of all the clans on Mandalore. Mandalore is allowed to be left alone by the Sith in exchange for not taking up arms against it officially. Doesn’t stop a bunch of their bounty hunters doing jobs against the Sith Empire. Female twin continues to refuse the force and has found a way to block it from her, allowing herself to remain undetected. Leia desperate to save the galaxy makes a truce with the rest of the invaders and then sets up a meeting with the Empire Remnant who has secretly been housing the remaining rulers of the other three factions. The Remnant is close to getting the three factions to submit to their rule. The Remnant refuses to ally with the New Republic and instead demands total submission from them as well. Meanwhile the three factions refuse to work with the invaders for invading them. Leia’s ship is then ambushed and she is the sole survivor due to using the force to protect hersel. She is taken prisoner and her capture is broadcast live by the Sith empire who threatens to execute her if the NR doesn’t surrender. Female twin sees this and finally decides she must act. She plans to kill her brother believing killing him will cut off the head of the snake. She also thinks she can do it without using the force due to her fighting skills with the Mandalorians. Boba Fett refuses to allow such a brazen act that would anger the Sith Empire and disowns her. However, most of her crew agrees to help her. They go on an infiltration mission. At the same time, Lando is able to finally unite the invaders, the NR, the other three factions, and even the Empire Remnant to do one desperate assault on the Sith flagship to put an end to it once and for all. The politics can be discussed afterwards, the real threat has always been the Sith.

The infiltration mission to rescue Leia and kill the male twin is compromised but then Lando arrives with an motley army (with x wings and tie fighters fighting together) distracting the Sith, giving female twin time to find her brother. As the battle seems to turn to the Sith, the entire Mandalorian fleet led by Boba Fett arrives and helps aid the allied fleet.

Female twin confronts her brother on the deck and tries to plead with him to stand down. He tries to plead with her to join him and to convince her that he’s doing the right thing. He reveals he never had an intention of killing Leia and this was just a ruse to draw all the allies out. They will eventually be decimated but submit and it will be good for the long run. Lady Sith appears and tries to tap into the female twins dark side and convince her to join as well, but she refuses. Lady Sith then mocks her for being weak bringing up the death of her father and Luke and how she enjoyed killing Luke. That provokes her and she uses the force to take a lightsaber from lady Sith and tries to fight her, only to be blocked by her twin. The twins finally duel. Leia meanwhile is freed from her prison by the female twins Mandalorian crew and asks them to get her to the main deck.

The twins duel and it is an emotional and angry one. Male twin is mad how he always protected her and even stopped her from killing Thrawn yet she treats him like an enemy. He justifies this proves he’s not like her, a slave to passion. He joined the dark side not out of passion or greed but to bring order. She counters he’s got a lot lives killed because of him. He retorts she should talk as she has betrayed the Jedi herself which she counters she is no longer one. Male twin disarms his sister and lady Sith encourages him to kill her. Male twin seemingly gives in, but he briefly sees Luke’s apparition and stops. Lady Sith in anger then tries to use force lightning on him but is stopped by Leia who is using the force to block it. She tells her twins to get out of here while she duels with Lady Sith.

Twins realize they need to destroy the Sith fleet and the ultimate weapon. They reunite with the Mandalorian crew and make their way to the ship that has the ultimate weapon intended on overloading it and blowing it up, destroying most the fleet. They make there way to the weapon but it’s clear someone has to stay behind to activate and overload it. Female twin volunteers but male twin knocks her out and decides he has to do what he always does, protect his sister. He then stays behind while the crew evacuate with the sister and the rest of the allied fleet gets ready to retreat. Leia fights Lady Sith and reveals she has no intention of defeating Lady Sith but distracting her. Too late male twin overloads the weapon sacrificing himself and Leia but destroying most of the Sith fleet and Lady Sith, saving the galaxy.

Film ends with the five factions and invaders getting together to finally form a more stable and peaceful government. Female twin is offered to join as the daughter of Leia or even rebuild the Jedi order but she decides the invaders were right that the force can’t be white or black. It is balanced between light and dark side, just like how both her brother and she were. She decides to instead form a new force wielder order that is neither Jedi nor Sith nor allied with any government as the force shouldn’t be used by any government or army. Film ends with her returning to Tattoine and starting her new force monastic order while staring at the two star sunset.

There I came up with a better idea by just loosely adapting the expanded universe while bored. Send me money Disney.
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