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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:39 pm

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Hi men. I'm Supermaster51 and I'm a Stuperwonder, Wonder*rev and Batbadcat hater with all my heart. Also, I'm a WonderBat shipper who is very angry for watching how DC Comics and many fans say that Stuperwonder is the perfect relationship and how WonderBat is just watched like a super-friendship and not a romance, except for us.
I hate Stuperwonder 'cause is the most superficial, hollow and stupid relationship. If Stuperman wouldn't have powers, Wonder Woman wouldn't like him, and if Wonder Woman wouldn't have powers, Superman would go with Lois or with another super powerful woman. Also, If Superman would look like a true alien, Diana wouldn't like him, and it was proved in Injustice.
I equally think that Batbadcat is a superficial relationship or friends with benefits, and Wonder*rev is superficial, cause, if Diana would be ugly, Steve would run away from her.
What do you think?
Can you make me feel better and tell me your reasons why you ship Wonderbat?
Oh, so another lost soul has found its way into this place. First of all, welcome to the site. Hope you'll enjoy your time here, and add to the discussions and share in the love we all hold for the relationship between Diana and Bruce.

While this might be a bit hypocritical of me to say, I advise to focus your mind on enjoying BMWW rather than hating on SuperWonder or whatever other ship opposes BMWW. Don't get me wrong, we all hate SMWW, and hate its hypocritical fans, but I don't believe that's the right attitude to take here. A lot of the time we discuss SMWW or BatCat in the context of how they negatively affect the characters involved, namely Diana and Bruce, rather than how they rival BMWW, and even then this place can get overtly gloomy due to those type of conversations.

What can I say to put your mind at ease ? Well for starters you can take solace knowing that BMWW remains hugely popular, and supported by many big name writers/artists/actors in DC. You can also keep in mind how SMWW failed miserably during the New 52 making its chances for a return pretty slim, and that BatCat is seemingly heading in a similar direction currently. Also, you should remember that people are campaigning very hard for a DCAU reunion, with WonderBat being one of the biggest reasons behind the desire to see the universe continued.

In short, things might look rather bleak right now, but on the flip side we've pretty much been at rock bottom ever since the New 52 started that things are bound to improve eventually over time. DC tried the SMWW thing and that didn't work, and they've been trying the BatCat thing ever since Rebirth started and that haven't payed off like they hoped it would either. So by process of elimination, BMWW is bound to get its moment in the sun at some point. DC might be trying its hardest to ignore it, but make no mistake they're aware of the demand for it.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:46 pm

Well, first, thanks for anwering me and cheering me up. Second, like you know I hate those relationships and have affected our favorite couple. Stuperwonder, thanks god, didn't work and I hope you be right about the Batcat failure, if DC doesn't put them together in the number 100.
Obviously, I know that WonderBat is very popular and I have given the agreements to Susan Eisenberg and Kevin Conroy for their WonderBat support. I'm glad for being here and join to the WonderBatcrew here.
Now, I hope JLReunion happens and give us WonderBat. In how many time do you think we're gonna see it canon? I think that this 2019 with the animation movies, our closest chance is Justice League and the five sinesters.
But, WonderBat is unevitable. DC will have to prove it, but they have to write it good, because you know, Stuperwonder and the other ships were bad written, afortunately.
Thanks.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:59 pm

Well, i know it's not the the Wonderbat pairing we want, but DC have been exploring it, even if shyly. There is...

Jason Todd (Red Hood)/Artemis of Bana-Mighdall (Artemis)
Tim Drake (Robin)/Cassie Sandsmark (Wonder Girl)
Wang Baixi (Bat-Man of China)/Peng Deilan (Wonder-Woman of China)

So you see that writers want to explore it, not to mention that every Wonderbat-lite relationship helps, because it normalizes the idea of the pairing being a "thing" and helps readers get into it.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:28 pm

Yes, but they have to explore it with our Batman and Wonder Woman. The original couple. Obviously, I liked the Wang Baixi and Peng Deilan relationship. We have to see the original relationship soon. WonderBat
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:39 pm

While I wouldn't place all my hopes on the upcoming JL vs Sinister Five movie, I'm hopeful it will lead to more DCAU inspired projects in the future, with the original DCAU cast, which will hopefully make the chances of seeing BMWW again that much higher. A lot of people want to see a continuation or even a resolution to the BMWW plot from the DCAU, so I'm confident that any serious DCAU project will have to touch on it in some way, so let's hope that DCAU reunion ends up happening.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:15 pm

I don't want resolutions. I want to watch WonderBat in that movie or watching how the become in lovers in one of the DCAU projects. ANd this can be the opportunity to finish the stupid New 52 animated movies, at least they put #WonderBat, but seems not available.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm

Man we can't demand it? Unless we buy the company. :(
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:03 am

I have that idea. That can be the only way for making #WonderBat and for bringing the DC comics to his true scent. That's the only way. The Bruce's and Diana's destinys have never been nice with them. We can make them have their Happy ending. No one deserves a happy ending more than Batman, and Wonder Woman is the only one who can give it to him.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:28 am

BruceDianaForever wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm
Man we can't demand it? Unless we buy the company. :(
We can if we won them wit numbers and loud attitude, SW fans shit on Disney soooo much that they want to fire K.Kennedy and her whole crew, just watch the amount of videos dedicated on shitting on Disney-SW on you tube, numbers will always win, big companies are understanding only money-talks , especially WB whom DC belongs. The problem is the younger generation who are raised on shitty new DCAU based on new 52 story-line. For me there weren't even 1 worthy to watch animated movie since Batman:Doom, but people love that new 52 shit with awful Darkside (worst of all versions of him) , and god damn awful JL which hadn't at least 1 member whom you could relate and sympathize, with Dickish ,pseudo emo Superman, whorish,bitchy, mean wonder woman who's main goal is to find emo Superman to fuck in the sky's, GL who is an ars and need to be there, Cyborg, who are just JL's personal "crack enemies tech" dude, Flesh, who are there to be the clown and Batman, who are just parodie of himself cracking mean jokes and commenting about everything that goes on, and once on a day praising Superdick. If they did porn with them it would be more meaningful and not so bad that actual product.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 am

TOMMM wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:28 am
BruceDianaForever wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm
Man we can't demand it? Unless we buy the company. :(
We can if we won them wit numbers and loud attitude, SW fans shit on Disney soooo much that they want to fire K.Kennedy and her whole crew, just watch the amount of videos dedicated on shitting on Disney-SW on you tube, numbers will always win, big companies are understanding only money-talks , especially WB whom DC belongs. The problem is the younger generation who are raised on shitty new DCAU based on new 52 story-line. For me there weren't even 1 worthy to watch animated movie since Batman:Doom, but people love that new 52 shit with awful Darkside (worst of all versions of him) , and god damn awful JL which hadn't at least 1 member whom you could relate and sympathize, with Dickish ,pseudo emo Superman, whorish,bitchy, mean wonder woman who's main goal is to find emo Superman to fuck in the sky's, GL who is an ars and need to be there, Cyborg, who are just JL's personal "crack enemies tech" dude, Flesh, who are there to be the clown and Batman, who are just parodie of himself cracking mean jokes and commenting about everything that goes on, and once on a day praising Superdick. If they did porn with them it would be more meaningful and not so bad that actual product.
So how to get so many followers in our ship...we are so less in numbers..
Its a difficult task.
Idk...
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:52 am

BruceDianaForever wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 am
TOMMM wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:28 am
BruceDianaForever wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm
Man we can't demand it? Unless we buy the company. :(
We can if we won them wit numbers and loud attitude, SW fans shit on Disney soooo much that they want to fire K.Kennedy and her whole crew, just watch the amount of videos dedicated on shitting on Disney-SW on you tube, numbers will always win, big companies are understanding only money-talks , especially WB whom DC belongs. The problem is the younger generation who are raised on shitty new DCAU based on new 52 story-line. For me there weren't even 1 worthy to watch animated movie since Batman:Doom, but people love that new 52 shit with awful Darkside (worst of all versions of him) , and god damn awful JL which hadn't at least 1 member whom you could relate and sympathize, with Dickish ,pseudo emo Superman, whorish,bitchy, mean wonder woman who's main goal is to find emo Superman to fuck in the sky's, GL who is an ars and need to be there, Cyborg, who are just JL's personal "crack enemies tech" dude, Flesh, who are there to be the clown and Batman, who are just parodie of himself cracking mean jokes and commenting about everything that goes on, and once on a day praising Superdick. If they did porn with them it would be more meaningful and not so bad that actual product.
So how to get so many followers in our ship...we are so less in numbers..
Its a difficult task.
Idk...
try to popularize this ship at least among your friends and relatives. If from 10 people 3 of them would jump in it would be enough.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm

TOMMM wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:52 am
BruceDianaForever wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 am
TOMMM wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:28 am

We can if we won them wit numbers and loud attitude, SW fans shit on Disney soooo much that they want to fire K.Kennedy and her whole crew, just watch the amount of videos dedicated on shitting on Disney-SW on you tube, numbers will always win, big companies are understanding only money-talks , especially WB whom DC belongs. The problem is the younger generation who are raised on shitty new DCAU based on new 52 story-line. For me there weren't even 1 worthy to watch animated movie since Batman:Doom, but people love that new 52 shit with awful Darkside (worst of all versions of him) , and god damn awful JL which hadn't at least 1 member whom you could relate and sympathize, with Dickish ,pseudo emo Superman, whorish,bitchy, mean wonder woman who's main goal is to find emo Superman to fuck in the sky's, GL who is an ars and need to be there, Cyborg, who are just JL's personal "crack enemies tech" dude, Flesh, who are there to be the clown and Batman, who are just parodie of himself cracking mean jokes and commenting about everything that goes on, and once on a day praising Superdick. If they did porn with them it would be more meaningful and not so bad that actual product.
So how to get so many followers in our ship...we are so less in numbers..
Its a difficult task.
Idk...
try to popularize this ship at least among your friends and relatives. If from 10 people 3 of them would jump in it would be enough.
Really? Whose got time for this? I am 20 and people will think i am a cartoonist/goofy kid. Sorry. Besides people arent in DC that much! They're all marvel,cuz the movies matter almost no one only the enthusiastic one buy the comics rest its the 21st century, man! Make movies,look where marvel is now! Something like the nolan trilogy (type of movies) is the answer to win those dc fans back! Although i am very proud to say that despite the losses in the movies, we still have way many oscars then marvel! There was a time dc made legendary movies. Too...
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But only one superhero couple have their own site-
BatmanWonderWoman!!!!!

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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:49 pm

BruceDianaForever wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm
TOMMM wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:52 am
BruceDianaForever wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 am


So how to get so many followers in our ship...we are so less in numbers..
Its a difficult task.
Idk...
try to popularize this ship at least among your friends and relatives. If from 10 people 3 of them would jump in it would be enough.
Really? Whose got time for this? I am 20 and people will think i am a cartoonist/goofy kid. Sorry. Besides people arent in DC that much! They're all marvel,cuz the movies matter almost no one only the enthusiastic one buy the comics rest its the 21st century, man! Make movies,look where marvel is now! Something like the nolan trilogy (type of movies) is the answer to win those dc fans back! Although i am very proud to say that despite the losses in the movies, we still have way many oscars then marvel! There was a time dc made legendary movies. Too...
People aren't all marvel fans, Marvell is just good in selling product and giving people what they want! Who says that you must merchandise DC,no you just need to express you preferences on BM and WW, and people do know about them, you must get people interested. Also I haven't yet seen Aquamen, but people say that movie was not bad not not Nolan style at all, which mean that you do not need to Nolanise DC to make great movie. Also, this is how you must defend you're opinion and what you stand for
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Yes, I'm sad what they done to Batman in the damn New 52 movies, making him an incidental or a character without importance. DC made that the other League would be more important, even knowing that Batman is who finance and has all the plans. That and the fact that the made from Wonder Woman a harlot for Stuperman. I'm not a great fan from animated New 52 movies for Stuperwonder and the members. I still think that Cyborg should go back with the Teen Titans and Martian Manhunter and John Stewart should go back to the League. Also, Flash had his good moments and Green Lantern too, but they could do it better. And Darkseid had a really silence role, what ruined him. And, about Stuperman, I never liked him.
But, like you said, we can make WonderBat canon if we have a good plan to conquer DC and get more WonderBat fans. But, in Twitter, I cannot win many fans, 'cause you know that the other super comic book fans have an alliance against WonderBat, 'cause can be the ending for Bat*at and Wonder*rev. But, we can do it.
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:00 pm

Yikes.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:26 pm

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Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:00 pm
Yikes.
What's up?
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:20 am

Disney should have made star wars closer to legends mara jade was great and so were the solo twins. They underutilized the new characters and made rey to overpowered that is why people are so mad about it. Essembles are always better than just promoting one single character unless the name of the character headlines the movie also she was unlikeable as well. Heck the Pine version of Trevor is the most interesting version in all its history in comics tv and animation to tell you the truth. Yeah maybe they should have made him an AD or executive producer if they needed his expertise behind the scenes. The only hard ass you need is one and that is batman give the characters other traits the ones that made them likable and interesting in the first place but that is just so hard for some people to conceive especially writers who wish to supposedly modernize them. those we know about already and how they should act through years of comics tv and movies. Wondertrev is the weak link and batcat can blow up especially one or the other is nerfed because of the relationship right now they are doing that to batman but if they do that to the cat well the cat only fans will get mad to and the bat/cat and wonder/trev fans will both scurry like the sm/ww fans because they bring the worst traits out of each other
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:11 pm

Yes. Like you know, all the Stuperwonder fans, Batbadcat and Wonderlazytrev have an alliance against the WonderBatcrew, 'cause they know that once that Batman and Wonder Woman be a couple, they cannot break up. I don't get it how many people ship other couples instead #WonderBat. Like you said, the other couples are worse than the other.
The only thing that we can do WonderBat canon, is winning more fans or buying DC Comics. We have to act. Jejeje.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:39 pm

SuperMaster51 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:57 pm
Yes, I'm sad what they done to Batman in the damn New 52 movies, making him an incidental or a character without importance. DC made that the other League would be more important, even knowing that Batman is who finance and has all the plans. That and the fact that the made from Wonder Woman a harlot for Stuperman. I'm not a great fan from animated New 52 movies for Stuperwonder and the members. I still think that Cyborg should go back with the Teen Titans and Martian Manhunter and John Stewart should go back to the League. Also, Flash had his good moments and Green Lantern too, but they could do it better. And Darkseid had a really silence role, what ruined him. And, about Stuperman, I never liked him.
But, like you said, we can make WonderBat canon if we have a good plan to conquer DC and get more WonderBat fans. But, in Twitter, I cannot win many fans, 'cause you know that the other super comic book fans have an alliance against WonderBat, 'cause can be the ending for Bat*at and Wonder*rev. But, we can do it.
Of course it wouldn't be easy! But just think about it, there aren't any legitimate wonderbat relationship in any DC movie/animated movie verse except some hints in JL first seasons and slight wonderbat in so much hated BvS, but still there are tons of people who like the idea, you need just made it widespread , eve with you activity in twitter or in other social media. DC and WB basically are money squeezing giants who would loose shit if they know that they can make big money just putting toughener two fictional characters.
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Re: Wonderbat Blues

Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:49 pm

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Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:20 am
Disney should have made star wars closer to legends mara jade was great and so were the solo twins. They underutilized the new characters and made rey to overpowered that is why people are so mad about it. Essembles are always better than just promoting one single character unless the name of the character headlines the movie also she was unlikeable as well. Heck the Pine version of Trevor is the most interesting version in all its history in comics tv and animation to tell you the truth. Yeah maybe they should have made him an AD or executive producer if they needed his expertise behind the scenes. The only hard ass you need is one and that is batman give the characters other traits the ones that made them likable and interesting in the first place but that is just so hard for some people to conceive especially writers who wish to supposedly modernize them. those we know about already and how they should act through years of comics tv and movies. Wondertrev is the weak link and batcat can blow up especially one or the other is nerfed because of the relationship right now they are doing that to batman but if they do that to the cat well the cat only fans will get mad to and the bat/cat and wonder/trev fans will both scurry like the sm/ww fans because they bring the worst traits out of each other
Problem with bat-cat is that it would never go away, because for some stupid reason, everyone have tendency to put catwoman in Batman lore, thou she do not have that much influence in his lore and on Batman himself, can you imagine Gotham without Joker, Penguin, Riddler or HQ with Poison Ive? No you can't but you can imagine Gotham and Batman without Catwoman. I was excited after BvS to know that there wouldn't be catwoman ,because of age problems (despite Poison Ive and HQ who can work even if they are 80-s) and because Margot Robby caste out catwoman from her protect (Gotham sirens). But after rumors of young Joker movie, and especially he rumors about Batman movie to be about Batman's first years (I already fed up with it), I lost hope because this means DC would show down to our throats yet another catwoman, like we didn't have enough.
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