ThatOneGuy wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:29 am
If I remember correctly The Suit Of Sorrows was always linked to The Sacred Order of Saint Dumas which in turn is linked to Azreal. What Tynion did was to strip it of its Mystical properties and make it technology instead while also adding some mind control into the mix for good measures. Pre-New 52 Bruce had the suit in the Batcave, well until it was stolen.
The problem with writers like Tynion isn't that they don't 'get' the character, its that they fundamentally view the character in a different light. I have said this before but it bears repeating. There are two different ideologically opposing view of Batman and writers like King and Tynion write the perfect Batman for some people. It all comes back to writers like Dixon who really started the whole divide. At the end of the day what powers the divide IMO is how important and prominent you think Batman's supporting cast should be. One portrayal of Batman absolutely needs his supporting cast to function while the other doesn't I will leave you to form any related conclusions.
Back to Tamasi, he also has a Spectre related crossover coming up which is great I can't help but feel we are back in the good ol'days of Detective Comics when other heroes especially more eclectic and mythical ones would feature in the book. Good times.
Yeah I remember that as well. My point is that the suit still belonged to Bruce, and it was a very cool piece of equipment both for its utility and lore, before some writer decided to give it to another character. That's something that's been happening a lot with Bruce, as DC has been slowly stripping him off of all the things unique to him, seemingly not wanting him to have anything not strictly speaking "realistic" and low level. Most of his more supernatural enemies and elements were transplanted into Batwoman, his more impressive traits have been steadily attributed more to the Robins and his other sidekicks, and most of his connections and rivalries with other villains have been slowly retconned into other characters as well. Anything with a whiff of mystique to it has been steadily getting purged out of Batman's universe, seemingly in the hope of capturing some of Nolan's Batman infamy. The funny thing is that Catwoman seems to be the only thing that Batman is allowed to keep.
I've said before that this campaign by DC to turn Batman into a mundane dude in a Halloween costume really only benefits Catwoman, who looks immediately out of the place the moment anything more than thugs and petty crimes are brought into the story. His rogue gallery has been pretty much reduced to Joker, Penguin, Two Face, and maybe Scarecrow, with the odd Hugo Strange or Ra's appearances here and there and that's it. Many elements and characters from the Batman world are still in use today, and quite extensively at that, but they have been so far removed from Batman himself, in a clear effort to distance them from him, to keep Batman in the small box that DC has made for him. That's why I lament the loss of the Suit of Sorrows because it represents Batman's downwards spiral into a dull and allegedly "realistic" character.
Tynion definitely doesn't "get" Bruce. He doesn't get why people love him, what makes him cool, and why he deserves to be treated with proper respect when standing next to characters who should be lower than him. That's why he wrote Bruce as incompetent and unintelligent for most of his run. That's why he continued to humiliate Bruce every time he wanted to wank one of his pet characters like Tim or Cass. Saying a writer doesn't get it might not be a good word to comprehensively describe the entire situation, but that's what I mean when I say the likes of Tynion and King simply don't get Batman and therefore should never touch him.
Tomasi's Batman has been nothing but delightful. It truly brought back memories of the pre New 52 era, when Bruce sounded like an intelligent, smart, and mature adult, not an emotional man-child. The good ol' days are far from being back, but I'll always support writers like Tomasi who clearly wants to bring back the glory days of DC, and he basis his writing on the stuff from that era. That's why I loved the Hellbat armour, as it reminded me of stuff like the Suit of Sorrow and times when Batman could be anything the writers wanted him to be. That's why I'm glad Tomasi is still keeping that suit around.